Monday, 24 March 2014

The decision to close Full-Disclosure Mailing List

John Cartwright said "I always assumed that the turning point would be a sweeping request for large-scale deletion of information that some vendor or other had taken exception to.

I never imagined that request might come from a researcher within the 'community' itself. Having spent a fair amount of time dealing with complaints from a particular individual (who shall remain nameless) I realised that I'm done."

In response Andrew Wallace said "Full-Disclosure Mailing List was being used against corporations, governments, academia and individuals and little was done to remove things that shouldn't be there in enough time.

The list was nothing to do with responsible or full disclosure. True responsible and full disclosure can happen elsewhere from now on."

Monday, 17 March 2014


n3td3v was an up and coming cyber security professional who became the victim of bullying, slander and defamation.

n3td3v was bullied on Full-Disclosure Mailing List an unmoderated mailing list owned by John Cartwright and hosted and sponsored by Secunia.

Media Coverage

n3td3v was featured in A blog entry by HackerFactor a company owned by Neal Krawetz, who claimed n3td3v was three people.

n3td3v was featured in A news article by SecurityFocus a company owned by Symantec who accused him of being a "security troll".

n3td3v was featured in A book Dissecting the Hack: The F0rb1dd3n Network by Jayson E Street and published by Syngress Publishing.

Health Impact

n3td3v dropped out of a cyber security degree due to ill health at University of Abertay still owing thousands of pounds spent on student loan, suffered from alcoholism and became unemployable as a result of anxiety.

Industry Reaction

Neal Krawetz said "I've been asked why I picked on n3td3v in the first place? My answer it pretty simple: it was the challenge asked of me. The targeted individual was not my selection, but was an excellent example for applying the tools. Even if the results are incorrect, they show how non-classical computer forensics can be applied. Are they incorrect? Time will tell."

Gadi Evron, Security Evangelist said: "Did you ever talk to n3td3v or ask him? Behind all that posted, he really seems like a good guy with good intentions."

What is cyber bullying?

Bullying UK said: "Cyber bullying is any form of bullying which takes place online or through your mobile phone."


n3td3v was an up and coming cyber security professional who setup n3td3v - Security Mailing List.

This was a read-only mailing list and online hub of various mailing lists and newsletters.

It accumulated over 7000 email subscribers.


To offer n3td3v an apprenticeship, course placement or job within the cyber security industry or to help him with legal aid or careers advice contact n3td3v.